Jetta TDI manual...

"norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback" (norskracer98)
09/08/2014 at 19:32 • Filed to: None

...VW people and owners. Tell me about them. I'm looking for anything you want to tell me.

DISCUSSION (41)

roflcopter > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
09/08/2014 at 19:40

What would you like to know? We buy and sell a LOT of these things and I've seen most good and bad things that can happen.

Zipppy, Mazdurp builder, Probeski owner and former ricerboy > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
09/08/2014 at 19:42

As someone who's driven a manual MKIV Jetta with frequency, it's good. I enjoy the torqueyness on day to day driving. They may be slow as heck stock, but go HOLYSHIT fast when tuned up. my cousin has a Seat Ibiza TDI (identical mechanically) with a significant tune on stock bits, and it's quite a bit faster than my dad's BMW, shall I say.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
09/08/2014 at 19:46

What year?

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
09/08/2014 at 19:50

2014.

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > roflcopter
09/08/2014 at 19:50

Pretty much everything.

roflcopter > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
09/08/2014 at 19:55

Well... there's good ones and there's bad ones, as with any car. We tend to buy higher mileage ones and they are all mostly stock, think in the 80k-200k mile range. While there are plenty of little things that tend to break in the cars, especially the interior pieces like the center armrest and sometimes the interior door handles, the cars are pretty bulletproof when properly maintained. Look for one that has already had a timing belt service since that should definitely be done every 100k miles, and it's not the cheapest if you have to get a shop to do it. The other common issue is with the dual-mass flywheel that VW used, the springs tend to go out and you get a horrible rattling on engagement, it doesn't really hurt anything, but definitely not something I would want a daily to do. I'd say they are good cars, the paint tends to go on them once they hit about 10 years, but what older car doesn't have that problem?

I really don't know what else to say but I'm here if you come up with any questions.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
09/08/2014 at 20:04

Get a wagon with the TDI and 6 speed. Shifter is buttery smooth but clutch is slightly tricky. Order in brown for maximum Jalop-ness*.

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*results may vary. See your local Volkswagen Dealer for best results.

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
09/08/2014 at 20:07

There's a brown one like 70 miles. I don't like the interior really. If I could afford to buy I would change it but as a lease probably not with the light brown/tan leather.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
09/08/2014 at 20:09

Easily solved.

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norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
09/08/2014 at 20:12

This work?
http://www.vw.com/car-profile.20…

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
09/08/2014 at 20:13

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norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
09/08/2014 at 20:17

But it's cheaper and I like the looks.

Phyrxes once again has a wagon! > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
09/08/2014 at 20:17

I have a 2013 JSW TDI with the three pedals and first time anybody drives it they are amazed at at the torque. When the Mrs. borrows it she almost always comments that she can't wait to get rid of her DD, 2007 Corolla 5 spd. Before I get hated on she is next for a new car, I supplemented my 2002 Tacoma w/ the JSW.

When driving back from the beach through rural NC it was enjoyable to drop a few gears and hit the "go fast" pedal to pass people.

You will also very quickly learn which stations have "updated" their pumps and which haven't, if they are still the old style "larger" nozzle they won't work with the car. I no longer give Hess/Wilco my business for this reason.

Someone will certainly correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the 2014 a MkVII, while my 2013 is a MKVI. That notwithstanding the changes are largely cosmetic.

Disclaimer: I didn't get the Sunroof or the NAV.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
09/08/2014 at 20:20

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norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > Phyrxes once again has a wagon!
09/08/2014 at 20:20

If I get one it won't have the Sunroof or Nav because I know where I'm going and sunroof isn't necessary for me. I don't think the JSW got the updated looks while the sedan did.

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
09/08/2014 at 20:23

Eh?
http://www.vw.com/car-profile.20…

It's like $40 more than the sedan at the same thing even with a larger downpayment.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
09/08/2014 at 20:25

SO?!? GET A 2013 IF YOU HAVE TO!

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
09/08/2014 at 20:27

I'm not made of money here.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
09/08/2014 at 20:28

Where are you? (Like city and state)

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
09/08/2014 at 20:28

Oswego, NY. The nearest VW dealer is like at least 45 miles away.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
09/08/2014 at 20:30

Check this out. Ignore the high mileage (mine has around the same mileage and has given me no(!) problems at all!).

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
09/08/2014 at 20:35

How is the gear box? You said it was nice?

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
09/08/2014 at 20:36

Yep!

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
09/08/2014 at 20:37

How about el clutcho?

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
09/08/2014 at 20:39

A little tricky to master, but I got it pretty quickly... Let me give you a hint. I learned to drive manual on my JSW and so did my uncle (and two of my friends) and at 80k miles it still is on the original clutch!

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
09/08/2014 at 20:41

What's so tricky about it?

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
09/08/2014 at 20:43

It has a really long throw (like a whole foot!!!) and an awkward engagement point but once you figure it out, you will never stall any other manual vehicle ever again.

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
09/08/2014 at 20:44

So you have to press it a long way?

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
09/08/2014 at 20:44

Sort of, but that is with all the manual TDIs

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
09/08/2014 at 20:46

Ok, yeah. I don't know every term for manuals like "throw" but I really kind of understand what you meant. But it sounds like it's a good clutch to learn on?

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
09/08/2014 at 20:49

If you have a somewhat decent idea of how to use it (like what pedals to press). So, I guess, sure.

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
09/08/2014 at 20:51

Well I know, in theory, how to drive a manual.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
09/08/2014 at 20:52

THEN DO IT ALREADY BRO

TRACKDAY BRO

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jkm7680 > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
09/08/2014 at 21:11

You are going to need a manual one. That's all.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > jkm7680
09/08/2014 at 21:15

Already had him covered with this. 40 Miles from his home!!!

His Stigness > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
09/08/2014 at 21:50

This is so true! I learned to drive stick in my mom's 2012 Golf TDI, and there hasn't been a manual car I haven't been a or to drive, and I've driven hundreds of different types because I'm a technician.

I love the long clutch though, maybe that's because it was the first one, or because the other Germans use a long clutch.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > His Stigness
09/08/2014 at 21:55

IDK, but it is actually a pretty user-friendly clutch come to think of it.

His Stigness > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen
09/08/2014 at 22:08

I think it is. Because of all that torque, the initial bite is so obvious, it really helps when you're learning. It also really helps to improve your smoothness. If you can shift smoothly in a TDI, you can drive anything smoothly.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > His Stigness
09/08/2014 at 22:12

Exactly! I just choose not to because racewägen!

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Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
09/08/2014 at 23:22

Since it's new or nearly new 2014 model you're looking at, it means it has the 2L TDI. It is a big improvement on the 1.9L... big increase in power. The downside is the first ones they sold had premature high pressure fuel pump failures due to Bosch supplying defective parts. That was around 2009. And it's an expensive repair... $2500-$3000. The problem is supposely fixed now. The VW diesels can last 500,000km if you take care of them. At least that was the case with the 1.9L TDIs.

Also the timing belt needs to be changed... and change it at an independent VW specialist... or at a GOOD VW dealer. Some VW dealers are crap... like a certain one in Brampton, Ontario who changed the timing belt on a TDI... and the mechanic set the timing as if it was the gas engine. The person who owned it foolishly didn't take the car right back and just drove it that way (power was down and it wasn't running right) until the timing belt broke and the engine was destroyed.

The EPA fuel economy ratings are pessimistic. People routinely and easily beat them.

The manual transmissions are solid from what I hear.

And the bodies are very solid with excellent rust protection.

There is the typical VW issues of electrical and trim items breaking.

IPFreely > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
09/11/2014 at 11:03

I have a Golf Tdi manual and it's pretty freaking awesome. 50mpg highway, lots of torque everywhere.